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12-29-2003
Thank you
At the Internet Encyclopedia of
Philosophy, it says about nihilism, "A true nihilist would believe in nothing,
have no loyalties, and no purpose other than, perhaps, an impulse to
destroy." I don't want
to speak for you, but I am bothered by the fact is says a nihilist would have
an impulse to destroy, and I wonder if it is a false statement concerning nihilism. I am curious as to what your opinion is
on this statement.
Thanks.
my name is daniel chairez. I have seen
your nihilist party website before, and I remember having an announcement for
suggestions for 2004. i don't currently have any suggestions, however if
there's anything i could assist in i would be glad to help.
thanks.
I think that you guys contradict
yourselves and are a bunch of nut jobs
uh, nice website, but...
When you mentioned Freud in your reading
list, you failed to mention the man who Freud based ALL of his ideas of
psychology off of: NIETZSCHE! Seriously, read Nietzsche's works and
what he had to say about psychology, and you'll realize that Nietzsche was the
founder of the modern approach to psychology. Freud just used science to explain what Nietzsche said.
Also, the universe is neither chaotic nor
orderly. And it (and you) does
exist. This may seem
un-nihilistic, but really, if you do not except your own existence, then, well,
WTF? I'll try to email you a more
sensible argument, but, as you do not believe anything can be proven (neither
do I, I simply accept that things can be proven, because without logic, science
and truth, or untruth, could not exist) I am unsure how "rational" my
logic will seem.
Discord.
One must make oneself superior to
humanity, in power, in loftiness of soul,-- in contempt.
-Nietzsche
http://www.bushflash.com/pl_lo.html
I know --I-- would support you all the way
compared to anyone US has voted for in the past.
Unfortunately, I'm Canadian. But I think
explosives is a form of democracy (just as it is for tyranny) :)
:)
mp
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Thank You
For your election campaign, you could use
the slogan, "You'd believe in
anything. We don't". Or "The
examined life is not worth mentioning."
Carl
whats the definition of nihilist?
Do you think nihilism
precludes having a belief system and goals? I wouldn't think so, knowing that
these things are based on preference, the brains interpretation of the world
and the chaos that makes up our lives seems good enough to me. I have a strong
moral code, though I will use it until I find something better, as I refuse to
believe absolutely in anything.
I guess you could say that the
only thing I really "believe" in is that nothing is certain, and the
only consistency is change. Anyway, I just recently discovered nihilism
although I have been an agnostic for years. Actually I suppose you could say,
I've a nihilist for a long time. I just didn't know what it was called. Looking
forward to hearing back from you.
Sincerely,
Luke
(dude, don't answer me back) umm..i see
where you're coming from. i'm more of an anarchist than a nihilist though
because even though the world is pretty messed up and we're all going to blow
each other up some day, i'd like to see a world where people were actively trying to make things better. +sigh+ oh
well. it might seem pointless, but
as you were saying earlier, it
makes me happy to have something to do with my time. the same reason you're
running this page. just a thought.
-daemonspoken
Unfortunately, the idea of mimetic
evolution seems to contradict your idea that we humans consciously choose our
morals based on our needs. I guess you nihilists assumed, like most people
today, that we are free-thinkers, not bounded to an evolution like our four-
and six-legged counterparts?
Also, there's this certain problem I have
with assuming that purpose and relevance is non-existent. Its never going to be
right. Why you ask? Even if you WERE right, it wouldn't matter in a meaningless
existence, where all answers are equally right and wrong. Your answer is
extraneous.
Which brings me to my conclusion. As a
devout mimeticist, I have foreseen beforehand that the nihilistic meme does not
have the survival advantage to spread like altruism did. Nihilism has no
incentive to survive. Look at Christianity. who wouldn't immediately accept a dogma that
promised eternal salvation should you follow it, and eternal incineration should
you not? Any belief in which we pretend we don't exist, and deny what we aren't
warranted to deny, just doesn't seem like something that'll catch on.
Cheers,
-xeu
Our Legions Sail Onward!
b9 InViD
Luftwaffe: http://www.kalkisarmy.com
Schauspieler:
http://www.geocities.com/benjamincapps
im doing a research paper on nihilism in
school, and i was wondering if you had any info on it that i could use to make
my research paper better.
thank you,
Charlie Tucker
A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of
little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With
consistency, a great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern
himself with his shadow on the wall. Speak what you think now in hard words,
and to-morrow speak what to-morrow thinks in hard words again, though it
contradict every thing you said to-day. - 'Ah, so you shall be sure to be
misunderstood.' - Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? ... To be great is
to be misunderstood
Ralph Waldo Emerson
You have censored the quote, at least put
in 'foolish'
all the doctrine and tradition
stripped away reveals
either dust and vanity
or love and grace that heals...
Jay S.
San Francisco
Hello there,
I recently stumbled across your website,
and it is really very interesting.
Thanks.
Leo Phillips
anyway heres the link:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/anarchistpunk-nihilistzine_oathmeal/
in the ashes and ruins,\
mark
Hello,
I'm writing an essay on the positiveness of
Nihilism, and I want to get my information correct, but everywhere I look, I
can't find any information on Nihilists in the areas I'm researching. Can you
please help me? Now I realize you probably don't care at all, but for the word
of Nihilism to get out, I need your help;
If you don't want to answer my questions, that's fine, but at least give
some references I can research for the information
I'm writting on how the world of a
Nihilist affects how they use money, how they treat the opposite sex;, how they
treat their families, the history of a Nihilist, how they react to sexuality,
how technology and education affect a Nihilists way of life and whats a
Nihilists sanctity of life. Again I realize that you probably don't care, but I
need your help.
Thank you very much
Sincerely,
Amber King
Um, OK, If you, no, I mean me, OK, If I (or you) or someone (anyone, I
guess) doesn't/didn't understand everything they - I mean you (or anybody not
him) said (or wrote) - like on the whatsa nihi list page - um, would that mean,
do you think, they're (he'r she'r) like, um, dumm ?? I am only axin cause I write word puzzles and have to clue
"nihilist" and now, after reading your swell website, I think I will
use "Page offering condos on Uahu" or whatever it is - that Hawian
island where rich white kids hang out.
They call the condos nihi something-or-other and, you know, list. Git it ?
-your best friend, Earl
http://www.brightoncore.com
New Nihilist Militia formed to take over Iraq
and turn it into a new Nihilist State.
Could a nihilist pretend to have a belief
just to make things easier for themselves and happy? Doesn't rejecting all
belief systems and value systems make people afraid of what you are saying and
say mean spirited things about you which pisses you off and makes you less
happy? Do you just tolerate this to achieve your ultimate goal of getting
everyone to reject belief systems and value systems?
i'm at work on the internet, but they don't want us to be, so
i don't have access to e mail and figured i would fire the following garbage at
anyone who thinks they can "accurately represent" nihilism.
first, i don't consider myself a nihilist.
i do find it interesting and can relate to it on different levels. i believe
that dreams are as important as being awake, if not more. i think that things
exist if you believe them to, and i think that nature does not have a pattern,
etc.
here goes.
do you feel emotiuons? you say that pursue
what makes you happy, and of course, you can't be happy all the time. does
sadness or loneliness, or longing, or love play a part in your life?
you said you don't believe in love, and
you said that you hate spirituality in there somewhere. is that to say that you
can hate someone without believing in hate, or did you not mean it?
I think pain is mental. That if you shut
it out, don't acknowledge it, it is not there. Everyone has probably met
someone or perhaps themselves have not known they were bleeding until they
looked down at their gash or whatever and saw that they were bleeding, THEN
felt pain. This happened to me as a child when I dislocated my thumb at one
point as well as breaking my wrist. But if you were to poke yourself with a pin
periodically, do you think you would not feel consistent pain on various levels?
I went through a period of time where I
was emotionally indifferent while at the same time, far from depressed. I still
have a hard time understanding consistent apathy because it does not allow
people to have fun. Do you consider yourself apathetic, and if so, can you
still have "fun"?
I've read the part on the website where
killing is talked about, but wouldnt it be fun to kill someone? The only reason
I havent killed people is because I dont want to see through the eyes of this
shell that is my body while in a prison cell. I DON'T KILL PEOPLE BECAUSE OF
FEAR OF GOING TO JAIL. Do you believe that fear is real? If you had a desire to
do so, would you? And, if so, if you got caught, how do you think you might
react?
How do you make a living? How have you
found that many nihilists make a living? Is there some kind of source of income
that allows the inconsistent to show up in their underwear if it pleases them?
They can't all be writers and artists. If someone considered themselves a
devoted vegetarian while at the same time considering themselves a nihilist, is
that possible or do they possess a moral, value, or ideal about eating meat or
not, which would disqualify them from being an actual nihilist?
What do you think about liars? I dont care
about anyone telling a lie, but isnt it annoying when people try to boost their
ego at your expense, and talk about things theyve done that they havent really
done?
How do you feel about anarchy (the kind
that relies on morals)? Whats your favorite Residents album? Mine's "third
reich-n-roll".
Are there any bands that you think
accurately portray nihilism?
Bake sale/ cooking/ gourmet nihilism
Nihilism rituals
Design nihilism fooseball
mister fuckhead
hope to hear your response.
i'm looking for footage of buildings
imploding, preferably castles, but drawing a blank, can someone help me?
Hi, we play rock music in Italy, and we
often have a nihilist way of writing our lyrics, because we can be against all,
without difference! Are you interested in receiving something about us? However
I must tell you that we sing in Italian in our Cd...but I could try to make a
translation!
Excuse me for my English!
Free mind 4 a living life; chained mind 4
a dying life!
Flavio - BRUTTI E IMPOSSIBILI (Uglies and
Impossibles)
I am wanting to know from a nihilist if
The Illuminatus Trilogy would be considered nihilism literature. The book is written by Robert Shea and
Robert Anton Wilson.
Thank you and I hope to hear from you soon.
Trisha Dodson
You quote Emerson in one of your answers
on the FAQ page. "Ralph Waldo
Emerson observed that, 'Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds.' (What
ever a hobgoblin is.)"
The actual quote is: "A foolish consistency is the
hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and
divines." It's from his essay
"Self-reliance" and must be looked at in the larger context of what
he was saying.
From an article I found: "Emerson's intention is clearly to
argue that a desire for "consistency" (by which he means continual
adherence to one's previously stated views for the purpose of maintaining our predictability
in the eyes of others) is a silly reason never to change one's mind."
You might find this interesting:
http://home.att.net/~sandgryan/essays_on_objectivism/other_aspects/emerson.html
My name is Kyle. I'm 16, I live in California. Though it did not necessarily surface from my limited
experimentation with drugs, I've spent much of the last year contemplating the
meaning of it all; asking myself why we are here...all that nonsense. Though my philosophies have changed
over the years, I've been in my current state of thought for awhile.
From all that I can tell, the laws of science are absolute
and unchanging. That is what I
feel is my only certainty. We, the
human race, do not know or understand all of these laws, but they are present
whether we acknowledge their existence or not. I then made the jump and said that since the brain is really
nothing more than a bunch of organic compounds, molecules of matter and waves
of electricity, then the gunk in my head is just as governed by the laws of
science as the apple falling from the tree, though a tad more complex. If the laws of chemistry are absolute,
then all matter in the universe must interact in the same manner. If the laws of physics are absolute,
then the manner in which everything moves is absolute, and if precisely
measured can be precisely predicted.
Therefore, the fate of the universe, so i thought, was precisely
predicted. Though our actions do
not go against our wishes, they are nonetheless out of what we think is control
and into the hands of the laws of science.
I found a name for this philosophy:
determinism. I realized that this
conclusion did not give me an answer of whether or not there was a supreme
being. God could have very well
been the one to set up the intricate arrangement of dominoes, pushed the first
one over, sat back and watched.
What did I care though, my thoughts were not really my own, I was
supposed to think them. Then I
heard about quantum theory, and that both physical and chemical reactions may
be a matter of probability, not of certainty. So as of right now I feel back in the dark in my theories.
haven't rambled on to long already, I have one question.
- When asked in your F.A.Q. if you
believed that you exist, you said no.
What did you mean?
Obviously you have consciousness. This you cannot deny. I think your answer, from my
understanding, was just as childish as the person who said "You believe in
nihilism, that's one thing!!"
hey! are you there?
my name's Kris. Let me know if youre still
in this address, we nihilists are not many, so we should every opportunity we
have to meet and keep in contact.
Kris
Anarchists belong neither to the left nor the
right. we are just uncompromisingly anti-authoritarian. Anarchy refuses all ideology. We criticize all
religion, all spiritualism, all moralism, all political ideology. We refuse to
bow before the altars of "God" or the nation-state. We spit on nationalism,
militarism, racism and hierarchy.
Nothing is sacred, least of all anarchism. Anarchy means freedom from
the constrains of our own human self-domestication
La obediencia a una persona, institucin o
poder obediencia heternoma es sometimiento; implica el renunciar a
mi autonomia y a la aceptacin de una voluntad o juicio ajenos en lugar del mio.
La obediencia a mi propia razn o conviccin (obediencia autnoma) no es un acto de sumisin sino de
afirmacin." tomado del libro -Sobre la desobediencia y otros ensayos- del
psicoanalista
Erich Fromm
Comments as of 11-04-2002
I just wanted to add a comment about your
description of Nihilism. It is not a beleif, Nihilism comes from within, it is
an internal realisation, not something which comes from an exterior source that
you beleive in. Nihilism is the realisation that religion, and indeed modern
society, revells in manipulating you into thinking how they think, controlling
what you think and feel etc....opressiing free thought and action. Personally, I
beleive we all exsist (otherwise why would I be writing this?), and I'm not
sure how that came into this argument - the theories that were expressed in the
movie 'The Matrix' do not have much to do with Nihilism. For a wonderful
explanation into what Nihilism actually is, go to Freydis' site at
www.geocities.com/liudegast/nihilism.html. 'Beleif in nothing' is a completely
wrong, misleading description into what Nihilism is. The fucking dictionary
cannot provide any sort of insight close to what Nihilism actually is. I hope
you add this to your website to explain to the stupid, delusional masses that
Nihilism is not what they think it is, and I hope that if you do, this email
will be somewhat enlightening to them.
And finally, on a last note, Nihilism is not about trying to convert people
like fucking 7th Day Adventists who go door knocking coz the only person who
turns up at church is old Mrs Beale who’s gone there for the last 15 years, if
someone has a different opinion to you, and they can state it in objective
terms, logically and reasonably, then good for them, they're expressing
themselves freely and they deserve to do so.
Thanks for your time
Has it ever occurred to you that maybe
some people believe in G-d not just to make them happy, but because they and
their ancestors and nation have witnessed G-d himself? I know this for a fact.
I believe that I am not the person who puts pointless restrictions on myself
just to suit my needs, but you are that one – you happily decide that nothing
has a purpose and there was no one who had any plan or design to the world you
live in. So you concentrate on yourself. Only yourself. You are your own god in
the center of your own universe. Anything that you cannot see or fathom does
not exist to you, and has no factor in your everyday life. This sounds pretty
ignorant to me. Also, how can you possibly say the world was an accident? It is
as if you saw an empty bottle of ink beside a beautiful, detailed, exquisite
work of art, would you believe that it spilled on accident? I personally don’t
believe your webpage appeared on accident, some megabites in the computer
randomly formed your absurd naked figure and your gay careless words of I can
do whatever I want ‘cause it doesn’t even matter. Have you had some sort of
trauma in your life that made you lose all hope of humanity? If you think
following your instincts and thinking only of making yourself happy, for no
one’s sake but your own, you really need to think out your actions and thoughts
and try and understand that there is something greater than you, and YOU are
not all encompassing – that you are not the only thing that matters.
I think I am a nihist but would that mean
I believe I am. I know things happen around, and I am very self-destructive. if
it’s right, it’s right, but if it’s wrong, I will kick it ‘till it brakes.
that's come out wrong. I will have to think about it. love, peace and happiness
colin
i can't believe you can say there is no
god! God created you. "you can’t play the game of life without the rules
of god."
Hey,
I was wondering if you've ever read the
book, "The Dice Man" by Luke Rhineheart. If you have, what do you think of it, as far as its central
philosophies, themes and its implications in general?
If you haven't read it
(http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0879518642/qid=1033328707/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/103-2096129-5263063?v=glance&n=507846#product-details),
of course, I highly recommend it. ist gut stuff.
Blahdios,~Jas
To the person studying Nihilism and
Existentialism, asking about the difference: If you were serious about either,
you would drop out of school and spend your time on more productive pursuits,
like watching old Roadrunner cartoons or downloading pornography from the
internet.
- Jim Stiene
99.999 percent of the universe is filled
with empty space.
I am the author of www.justthinking.com.
An online novel exploring life as a convinced nihilist. I am still working on
the novel and i am always looking for feedback. Any chance of a link?
www.JustThinkingAloud.com
Thanks
Rambler
You and people in general, have a
misconception as to what nihilism is exactly and I believe that this is giving
rise to many of the arguments I see on your website. Nihilism isn't a belief in
nothing. This would mean that you believe in nothingness.
This defies logic (which nihilism is based
on) because you can't believe in an undefined because you can't do anything
to/in an absence. Nihilism is also not not-believing in anything (in fact if
you wrote this sentence so that it was grammatically correct, you would define
nihilism, but that will be explained eventually). Nihilism is rather a logical conclusion
coming from the fact that the only way to obtain value is by arbitrary
resolution. The only way to obtain a base value is to randomly adopt one.
Because of this nothing we do matters. Because of this there is no reason to
accept facts as facts. The problem with nihilism is that it suggests nothing to
do with our lives. Nietschze said that the only thing to do was to discover the
superman, or one that can logically attribute value to what he does. He said
that this man would be as different from man as man is from the ape. He tried
to find out what the superman was and went crazy in the attempt. I see two
problems with this, the first of two suggestions as to what to do with our
lives, assuming nihilism. First, we have actually evolved out of the state in
which we attribute value to what we do (monkeys seem to think there is a
purpose to there lives) and to begin to attribute value to what we do again we
actually be regression. In this case nihilism is just a given and the point of
philosophy is to argue which philosophy is the best under certain random
valueless values. Basically its mental masturbation, but if nothing matters and
therefore what you do with you're time doesn't matter, I guess masturbation is
as good as anything. (I know that's what I do with my free time) Second, in the
case that we will evolve enough to attribute value to our lives what shall we
do in the meantime while we change? There is only one thing that we must do. It
is to live. Society and people must live if we intend to be able to attribute
value to our lives in the future. It is through this that we get value,
specifically the value of life. Therefore any philosophical system that claims
human life as its base value must be debated, and the one that seems most
likely to support human life must be accepted. Many philosophies claim this
value such as socialism and Karl Marx and objectivism and Ayn Rand (to whom I
am partial to because I'm reading her book, however I don't believe everything
she says) to religion and J.C. himself (Jesus Christ). Ironically one doctrine
that doesn't support the logic of nihilism is that of the supposed nihilists.
The second thing that nihilists have
suggested to do with our lives is to "test" out certain philosophies
and see if they actually have values that are logically based. This idea, which
was presented by Heidegger (he's the nihilist nazist that everyone seems to
think is Hitler), has a few main problems. It's uncertain: what it basically
says is the world is valueless, but keep doing stuff because maybe I'm wrong.
This seems rather asinine to me. Why did he even say anything in the first
place if he was just going to go back and say keep doing what you're doing
because maybe I'm wrong. The second problem is that assuming that you know that
nihilism is true, nothing within the human capacity is going to be able to
attribute a definite value through reason. Therefore the nihilist who knows
nihilism to be true has no reason to explore other possibilities. At this point
what does he do? He keeps living his life like he would have otherwise; again
nihilism regresses back to a given and philosophy becomes mental masturbation
yet again. The third problem to this solution is that what happens if you chose
the opposite of the elusive logical value, is this not worse then not adopting
any values at all? At this point you also continue to live you life as you
would have otherwise and you don't even pretend to be looking for the
logical-value.
( I wrote in the beginning that the
grammatically correct form of "Nihilism is also not not-believing in
anything" actually defines nihilism. The grammatically correct form is
Nihilism is believing in anything this is so because a true nihilist believes
in anything until he finds the one belief that has a logical value)
Hey there.. I just sort of stumbled across
your page.. I heard the term Nihilist thrown around a bit and I knew I learned
some about it in school and I just kinda wanted to broaden my knowledge on the
subject. I must say, I like your web page.. I found it to be rather
informative.. Now I didn't whollistically agree or disagree with it (if you
care for the input), but I did enjoy reading through it. I have bookmarked it.
I do have one question though. Do you have a significant other? (and/or) How do
you (and/or other nihilists) view relationships? I couldn't figure out if it
was coupled with the familiy view.
but I found that hard to swallow that it would be the same as family..
Anyways, I shall be visiting your page more.. and I very well may have more
questions in the future. Thank you for your time. I appreciate the effort on
the webpage.
-Jason Khano
hello, my name`s paul, i have a Q. re
BELIEF;
in your faq setion you said that people choose
to believe in god because it makes them happy, and you choose not to for the
same reason ; my Q. is about the "choose" part;
do we actually "choose" our
beliefs?
or; do our beliefs simply come into
existence?
avoiding the metaphysics of self / i / free
will, determinism / etc for the moment , i believe that we don`t choose to
believe - or not to believe - in god`s existence [or in anything for that
matter]. my guess is that we have
no direct* control over our beliefs. so if someone believes in god, they
couldn`t choose not to believe. and if someone doesn`t believe in god, they
couldn`t choose to believe.
this isn`t to say their beliefs can`t
change - but i believe these changes wouldn`t be the result of a choice; they
would be the result of new experiences eg; the presentation of new evidence /
'gut feelings' / religious or mystical experience [ or at least an experience
that someone might put down to the religious / mystical ]
* re 'direct' ; where we do have control
over our beliefs, i believe, is in what we choose to read ; who we choose to
spend time with ; what we choose to discuss etc etc [ this assumes some degree
of free will whicw is something i`m far from convinced about, but am prepared
to assume for the sake of discussion ]
the above choices are made, i believe,
based on what we WANT to believe, eg ; someone who wants to believe in god
might choose to read the bible or the koran and spend a lot of time around
like-minded people. and although this isn`t 'choosing' to believe in god, it
could help in the formation of that belief [or the encouragement of an existing belief].
like - wise for someone who doesn`t want
to believe; they might choose to read secular writings, and spend a lot of time
with non - religiuos people. again this isn`t 'choosing' to believe in the non
-existence of god, but it might help with the formation of such a belief [ or
the encouragement of an existing one ]
i have to go - will finish this later
paul
What is your take on satanism, i.e., Anton
Lavey, the Satanic Bible, that good stuff? How do you think it relates, if at
all to nihilism? What do you agree and disagree with about it?
This is causing great distress to my
family and friends, but I can't relate to them, because they don't know what I
feel or look at what I am doing as foolish. I wanted to know if you had an literature or websites I
could visit that could perhaps try to share a minuscule amount or experiences
shared by other nihilists......
Ryan
Why aren't you guys dead yet?
having no point in writing this I
write....you portray a humble nihilist. I too am nihilist after such a short
span of years in thought. Up until march 2002 I thought I was alone in thinking
there was no right and wrong. Now after obbsession with nietsche’s writings
(still in progress) I maintain a quiet nihilist mind.
I now await 2 years solitude where i may
after a time be able to think clearly without society steering. Solitude may
however steer me neither deeper or higher into nihilism because they do not
exist. nihilism is just nihilism.
I'm a nihilist. I applaud this site. The
critics can sit and spin, or stick their head up Jupiter's ass. I am writing to
comment on something said in comments by another commentator. They argued that
yes, the universe is Chaos, but from a higher perspective Order can be had.
Order does come out of Chaos and this can be shown scientifically to happen
time and time again.
For example: In studies on Jupiter’s Great
Red Spot, or storm, and the weather patterns, a mock set up of what must cause
this Spot to occur was reconstructed in the lab. Well, when the Chaotic forces
of the winds got really going...a massive spot began to come out of the Chaos,
an order began to form in the midst of the tumultuous forces. They are linked.
Order comes from Chaos, or Turbulent forces that give rise to an orderly,
organized, compacted spot of coalesced and cohesive binding...or order....
Order forms from Chaos. You can't have
life without death.
Regards, Jeffrey Q.
By the by, I picked up a really
interesting book today, called "Dictionary of Theories" by Jennifer Bothamley. It's just what the title says. I just started it, but it has stuff
like atomism, absense paradox, that sort of thing. A good read. I
recommend it.
Toodles,
Sydney
Wouldn't it be more accurate to describe
yourself as a existentialist?
There is something extremely wrong with
every single person in this world. They seem to be part of a pointless
simulation.
"The Matrix" has portrayed this
idea somewhat, yet we watch it and go back to our daily lives. Yet in this very life, underneath the
seeming diversity in people's opinions, values, talents, and interests, there
is something that makes everyone the same. It is as though this planet is populated only by mindless
fakes, objects that provide the appearance of intellect on the surface but are
based on only mechanical reflexes and primitive thought patterns.
I don't really care if anything I say has
been said before, if it was portrayed in movies, in books, or in the lyrics of
some useless song. With 6 billion people covering the globe at any given time,
thousands and thousands of years of written literature, probability dictates
almost any combination of words has occurred numerous times. Yet there is clear
evidence there was no action, so those words, just like the people who spoke
them, must have been just more fakes. I am forced to use this language (also
created by the fakes) because there is no alternative, so everything I write
here could be misunderstood to make me sound like one of them, but it will be
the action that I take and the dedication that will separate me from them.
In my estimation the fakes that occupy
this planet don't make up 99%, but more like 99.9999999% of the population. I know this because I've
searched, and in my search have so far only found one true ally (I have found
him via the internet as well). But even with those numbers we would not give up
because there is no logic in giving up.
The people on this planet are all fakes
because thesocieties have made them this way. Ideas that populate people's
minds have no logic or purpose. Concepts such as religion, god, morality,
individualism, freedom, identity, happiness, love and billions of others are
all just memes. Like parasites they infect the minds and spread from one person
to the next. They have no point or purpose; they exist without any logical
basis or foundation. The fakes are completely controlled by them, and they will
never see beyond them. To not be controlled by them one must do more than just
realize that they exist. One must resist any ideas that have no point,
endlessly question, and never accept imperfection or compromise in any answer.
We (myself and my ally) are different
though. While we have had the limitation of existing only in these societies,
something has made it possible for us to resist being indoctrinated into
becoming one of those fakes. We have no arbitrary wants, needs, desires, or
preferences.
If this world continues to exist the way
it is then nothing in it will ever have a point. It will always be just a
product of random evolution, one with no importance or relevance. The only logical
goal is to dedicate our lives to increasing our numbers, those that aren't
fakes, so that in thousands of years our numbers may be such that the fakes
would no longer be a threat to progress.
Those that join us must see every other
person occupying this planet as the enemy, and us as their only allies. Like us
they must have dedication only to taking the most logical action, and to
nothing else.
Ryan and Jacob
hey,
my website has material on nihilism, plus
other unrelated stuff, so I'm not sure where you would want to put it. Anyway it's at
http://strangerbox.topcities.com/, please check it out.
Thanks
Amanda
The Hawaiian Revolution is just another
amusing example of our poor understanding of U.S. Imperialism.
I can't claim to understand nihilism, but
I've been reading and attempting to educate myself about what may be a
positive, political type of nihilistic practice and belief. The page I've frequented the most is
http://www.counterorder.com/
I think of the website as the most comprehensive
center for understanding Nihilism.
As the sites author has noted, it's the Bible of Nihilism. Now you may have already been there,
may know all there is to know.
Maybe you refute that even nihilistic philosophy has any more meaning
than existentialism or all the other 'isms that grew out of the last century;
then again, maybe you'll like it!
If not, I guess you'll hate it.
Back to the point, it may be interesting discussion for this site’s
members, you might learn something, you might help me learn something about
it. I plan to check this site
thoroughly for furthering my counter-cultural, anti-established,
intellectualistic, or is that (anti-intellectualistic) growth! If my ignorance doesn't get in the way,
and my schizoeffective-diseased brain doesn't frustrate me, I may just learn a
thing or two about living 'against the grain'--as Bad Religion would state it.
Herr Niemond
Mr. Nobody
Hi
Im brad